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- You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts;
Houston Mayor Annise Parker [L] with Mike, just before the show. (Dec. 7, 2015)
- An educated electorate is a prerequisite for a democracy.
SIGNOFF QUOTE[s]:
“Of course 2016 comes to a close with Archduke Ferdinand trending on Twitter” – Dan Pfeiffer, @danpfeiffer on Twitter
“I reject your reality and substitute my own.” ~ Adam Savage, on an episode of Mythbusters. After being shown a video clip that contradicted his memory of something he had said, he responded, “I reject your reality… and substitute my own.” (He was joking.) Comment by Harriet Hal, 12,9,2008
- As Groundwater Dwindles, a Global Food Shock Looms, By Cheryl Katz (NAT GEO)
o “Groundwater depletion affects more than food: It also damages wetlands, makes land sink, and contributes to sea-level rise.”
o Time for a national water management/flood control system?
- Shinzo Abe visits Pearl Harbour just as the spectre of internment returns, By Rachel Pistol December 26, 2016 3.24am EST
- The Japanese prime minster, Shinzo Abe, is set to visit Pearl Harbour just after the 75th anniversary of the surprise attack that brought the US into the World War II. Abe is only the second Japanese premier to visit Pearl Harbour, and will be the first to visit the USS Arizona Memorial.
- …while everyone is familiar with the most obvious consequence of the Pearl Harbour attack, the assault kicked …than the policy of internment, which involved the incarceration of 120,000 Japanese Americans.
- As soon as the US declared war on Japan (and thereafter Germany and Italy), citizens of Axis nations living in America became enemy aliens. Germans, Austrians, Italians and Japanese were all subject to harassment and abuse – not all that unlike the sort of hatred many Americans have encountered since the election of Donald Trump.
- … President-elect Donald Trump and his supporters have been vocal in their support for policies such as building a wall along
- ‘Another example of China’s aggression’, December 27, 2016
- CHINA may be preparing to mobilise “hundreds” of its surface-to-air missiles currently stationed in Hainan Island. US military officials said the missiles, which Beijing recently shipped to its non-contested Hainan Island in the South China Sea, will be moved to the country’s disputed man-made islands over coming months.
- Trump ally who wished death on Obama is a school board member, and calls for his removal are growing, By Valerie Strauss, December 26 at 11:31 AM [Washington Post]
- [Carl Paladino], The co-chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in New York, who wished death on President Obama in 2017, is a member of the Buffalo Board of Education – but that could soon change.
- In response to a question about his biggest wish in 2017, Paladino said he hoped “Obama catches mad cow disease after being caught having relations” with a cow, then dies and is buried in a cow pasture. He also said he hopes Michelle Obama would “return to being a male and let loose in the outback of Zimbabwe where she lives comfortably in a cave with Maxie, the gorilla.”
- Son of former Trump campaign official denounces his Obama comments , CBS News 12/26/2016
- [William Paladino], The son of President-elect Trump’s New York campaign co-chairman has denounced his father’s comments about President and Michelle Obama.
- A Drexel Professor Tweeted That He Wants ‘White Genocide’ for Christmas, by Virginia Sherwood—NBC NewsWire/Getty ImagesDrexel University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on October 30, 2007.
- All I Want for Christmas is White Genocide,” associate professor of politics and global studies George Ciccariello-Maher tweeted on Saturday, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports. The following day he tweeted, “To clarify: when the whites were massacred during the Haitian revolution, that was a good thing indeed.”
- He later said he meant it as satire
- Drexel University reprimanded a professor after he reportedly tweeted apparent support for “white genocide” on Christmas Eve.
- Trump: Obama Wouldn’t Have Have Won Against Me , Daily Caller
- Donald Trump plans to shut down his charitable foundation, which has been under scrutiny for months, Washington Post- Dec 24, 2016, President-elect Donald Trump said he plans to shut down his charitable foundation, a decision that comes after repeated controversies over how it collected and disbursed funds.
- Scientists prepare to fight for their work during ‘the Trumpocene’, By Sarah Kaplan December 15, 2016 [Washington Post]
- … the dawn of what one researcher called “the Trumpocene” has everyone at American Geophysical Union reckoning with their role in this new era. … that meant attending his first-ever protest Tuesday.
- Scientists are frantically copying U.S. climate data, fearing it might vanish under Trump, By Brady Dennis December 13, 2016 [WASHINGTON POST]
- Alarmed that decades of crucial climate measurements could vanish under a hostile Trump administration, scientists have begun a feverish attempt to copy reams of government data onto independent servers in hopes of safeguarding it from any political interference.
- The efforts include a “guerrilla archiving” event in Toronto, where experts will copy irreplaceable public data, meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks, and a collaboration of scientists and database experts who are compiling an online site to harbor scientific information.
- Russian Interference Could Give Courts Legal Authority To Install Clinton, By Alex Mohajer, Political Writer and Commentator (Huffington Post) 12/10/2016 06:28 am ET | Updated 6 days ago (12/13/2016)
- …at least one federal court decision suggests there may be some federal case law on the question of whether it is possible to invalidate the outcome of an election after the fact when there is fraud, and replace a candidate benefitted by fraud with his opponent. The case, Marks v. Stinson, is the first and only known case in which a federal judge reversed an election outcome.
- [In] a case originally brought before a federal district judge in Pennsylvania in 1993, which was subsequently appealed to the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit in 1994. The Third Circuit partially upheld the federal judge’s decision to intervene and invalidate a 1993 state senate election due to fraud. Interestingly, the federal district judge ordered the winner be removed from office and the subsequent vacancy be filled by his opponent.
o In February 1994, after Stinson had already taken office, the federal judge ordered he “be removed from his State Senate office and that [his opponent, Bruce Marks] be certified the winner within 72 hours.”
o Two of the elected officials who testified in the Pennsylvania case said under oath that they were aware of the fraud, had intentionally failed to enforce laws, and hurried to certify Stinson the winner in order to bury the story. To some, the narrative draws parallels to the Washington Post’s revelation that Republican Mitch McConnell was aware of the CIA’s conclusion that Russians had intervened and opted to do nothing.
o The case deliberates interesting rationale that could theoretically be applied in part if, after Donald Trump assumes office, it is shown that Russian hacking (or any fraud, for that matter) robbed Hillary Clinton of the presidency. The case offers clues that imply courts may intervene.
o There is also, of course, no constitutional Electoral College process or system in Pennsylvania, so the situations are not exactly analogous. But the reasoning behind the federal court’s decision may hold muster. It is not clear how the case would impact a presidential election.
Trump-Sinclair deal underscores decline of media, By Joe Concha, contributor (TheHill) 12/19/16, 01:20 PM EST
- President-elect Trump’s son-in-law told a group of business executives off the record that the campaign had a deal with Sinclair Broadcasting Group to receive more favorable coverage in exchange for more access, according to a Saturday report in Politico.
- The situation underscores a conundrum that every reporter and news organization faces in our ultra-competitive, click-obsessed media:
- Just how much leverage does one concede to any political campaign when trying to gain access?
- For Sinclair — which owns 154 stations across the country — making major concessions that included not commenting on Trump interviews given to the company was part of that negotiation. (The arrangement doesn’t mention anything about any questions being off-limits.)
- Hillary got 48.3% of the vote compared to Trump’s 46.2%; a 2.1% lead, which translates into about 2.8 million votes (about a 2.1% lead) in the latest count I can find this evening.
- Russian Interference Could Give Courts Legal Authority To Install Clinton, By Alex Mohajer, Political Writer and Commentator (Huffington Post) 12/10/2016 06:28 am ET | Updated 6 days ago
o BREAKING: Russian Interference In The Election Just Handed Hillary The White House (DETAILS), December 10, 2016 New Century Times
- His opponent in the race, Republican Bruce Marks was then made the winner. The judge who made the ruling, Judge Clarence Newcomer, said:
“Substantial evidence was presented establishing massive absentee ballot fraud, deception, intimidation, harassment and forgery.”
According to the New York Times: “Judge Newcomer ordered that Mr. Stinson, a 49-year-old former assistant deputy mayor of Philadelphia, be removed from his State Senate office and that Mr. Marks, a 36-year-old lawyer and former aide to United States Senator Arlen Specter, be certified the winner within 72 hours.”
Obama Says He Would Have Defeated Trump for a Third Term, New York Times
- As Groundwater Dwindles, a Global Food Shock Looms, By Cheryl Katz (NAT GEO)
- Emoluments Clause of the Constitution (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
- By accident or design, Trump signals tougher China policy, Washington Post – 12/5/2016: WASHINGTON – Whether by accident or design, President-elect Donald Trump is signaling a tougher American policy toward China, sparking warnings from both the outgoing Obama administration and Beijing.
- The Philippine Trump and US Trump see eye-to-eye.
- Duterte: During phone call, Trump praised my drug war as the ‘right way’, By Emily Rauhala December 3, 2016 at 5:25 AM [Washington Post]: Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s plan to “kill all” the country’s suspected drug users and dealers has many foreign critics, including the United States, the European Parliament and the International Criminal Court.
- Highly Cited:Philippines’ Duterte gets Trump invite during ‘animated’ call: aide Reuters
- From Philippines:Duterte-Trump talk seen to boost ties Philippine Star
- Duterte: During phone call, Trump praised my drug war as the ‘right way’, By Emily Rauhala December 3, 2016 at 5:25 AM [Washington Post]: Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s plan to “kill all” the country’s suspected drug users and dealers has many foreign critics, including the United States, the European Parliament and the International Criminal Court.
- China lodges complaint over Trump-Taiwan call, By Stephen Collinson, Nicole Gaouette, Elise Labott and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN Sat December 3, 2016
- Christiane Amanpour Drops Truth Bomb On Trump Era Press: ‘I Believe In Being Truthful, Not Neutral’, By News Corpse (http://www.dailykos.com) Saturday Nov 26, 2016 12:16 PM CST
- Amanpour: “I was chilled when [Trump’s] first tweet after the election was about professional protesters incited by the media.” [Because as we all know] “First the media is accused of inciting, then sympathizing, then associating. And then suddenly they find themselves accused of being full-fledged terrorists and subversives. And then they end up in handcuffs, in cages, in kangaroo courts, in prisons, and then who knows what.
- “…[It’s time to] recommit to robust, fact-based reporting, without fear or without favor, on the issues. Don’t stand for being labeled or called ‘lying,’ or ‘crooked,’ or ‘failing.'”
- “Much of the media was tying itself in knots trying to differentiate between balance, between objectivity, neutrality, and crucially, the truth. We cannot continue the old paradigm. We cannot, for instance, keep saying, like it was over global warming. When 99% of the science, the empirical facts, the evidence, is given equal play with the tiny minority of deniers.”
- “I learned a long, long time ago…never to equate victim and aggressor. Never to create a false moral or factual equivalence…So I believe in being truthful, not neutral. And I believe we must stop banalizing the truth. We have to be prepared to fight especially hard right now for the truth.”
- “[Donald Trump] did a very savvy end run around us and used it to go straight to the people. Combined with the most incredible development ever, which is the tsunami of fake news, aka lies.”
- “I feel that we face an existential crisis, a threat to the very relevance and usefulness of our profession. Now, more than ever, we need to recommit to real reporting across a real nation, a real world in which journalism and democracy are in mortal peril. Including by foreign powers like Russia who pay to churn out and place these false news articles, these lies, in many of our press. They hack into democratic systems.”
- “I was shocked because very few ever imagined that so many Americans conducting their sacred duty in the secret ballot box, using their ballots, would be angry enough to ignore the wholesale denigration of these values. The vulgarity of language, the sexual predatory behavior, the deep misogyny, the bigoted and insulting views
- “Obama can appoint Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court if the Senate does nothing, By Gregory L. Diskant April 8, 2016 By Gregory L. Diskant April 8, 2016 [Washington Post] Gregory L. Diskant is a senior partner at the law firm of Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler and a member of the national governing board of Common Cause.
- Trump blames ‘millions of people who voted illegally’ for popular vote loss, By Robert King 11/27/16: President-elect Trump attributed Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton‘s 2 million-vote lead in the popular vote to illegal voters.
- Trump’s comments on Sunday on Twitter come as Green Party Nominee Jill Stein requested a recount in Wisconsin, alleging reports of voting irregularities.
- “In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally,” Trump tweeted on Sunday.
- Trump did not provide evidence to back up his claim that millions of people who were not eligible to vote actually voted in the 2016 elections.
- You’re not just imagining it: the Hillary Clinton vs Donald Trump vote totals do look rigged, By Bill Palmer | November 17, 2016 | [http://www.palmerreport.com]
- Donald Trump is making a strong case for a recount of his own 2016 election win, By Aaron Blake, Nov 28, 2016 (Washington Post): On Sunday morning, President-elect Donald Trump assured us all that a recount of the 2016 election wouldn’t change the outcome and was a waste of resources.
- “…the president-elect is also, unwittingly and amazingly, calling into question the results of an election that he won nearly three weeks ago. The logical extension of his argument is that all results should not be trusted. In effect, Trump is lending credence to the very same recount effort that he criticized as superfluous.
- Trump has a plan for government workers. They’re not going to like it. By Lisa Rein, [The Washington Post] 11/21/2016
- President-elect Donald Trump and the Republican-controlled Congress are drawing up plans to take on the government bureaucracy they have long railed against, by eroding job protections and grinding down benefits that federal workers have received for a generation.
- Hiring freezes, an end to automatic raises, a green light to fire poor performers, a ban on union business on the government’s dime and less generous pensions — these are the contours of the blueprint emerging under Republican control of Washington in January.
- Breitbart headlines also provide a possible insight into [Stephen K. Bannon’s] views, with federal employees described as overpaid, too numerous and a “privileged class.”
- “Number of Government Employees Now Surpasses Manufacturing Jobs by 9,977,000,” the website proclaimed in November. There are 2.1 million federal civilian employees.
- “It’s nearly impossible to fire somebody,” said Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. “When the overwhelming majority do a good job and the one bad apple is there viewing pornography, I want people to be held accountable.”
- Gingrich said the Trump administration probably would look for guidance from Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), who stripped public employee unions of most of their collective-bargaining rights and forced workers to pay more into their pensions and for health care in what became a bitter political fight.
- Federal employees behind in pay by 34 percent on average, salary council says, (By Eric Yoder (Washington Post) October 31, 2016: Federal workers earn 34.07 percent on average less than private-sector employees doing comparable work, according to the government’s official, although not universally accepted, tally of how salaries compare.
- The figure was announced at Friday’s annual meeting of the Federal Salary Council, a group of union representatives and outside experts on compensation that oversees the General Schedule, the pay system for white-collar workers below the senior ranks.
- Where there’s still room for hope:
- Electoral College:
- When do they meet? Dec 19, 2016
- What is their Constitutional role?
- Are they expected to vote in the interests of the country?
- In the Federalist Paper #10, there is this:
- … in the Federalist No. 10, James Madison argued against “an interested and overbearing majority” and the “mischiefs of faction” in an electoral system. He defined a faction as “a number of citizens whether amounting to a majority or minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adverse to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.“
- I could interpret that as being a definite act of overt voter suppression across large parts if the United States by a “faction” “…adverse to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.”
- I think it’s time for the Electoral College to step up. That IS what the Electoral College is for.
- United States presidential election, 1824 (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia): The United States presidential election of 1824 was …held from Tuesday, October 26, to Thursday, December 2, 1824. John Quincy Adams was elected President on February 9, 1825.
- The election was the only one in history to be decided by the House of Representatives under the provisions of the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution after no candidate secured a majority of the electoral vote. It was also the only presidential election in which the candidate who received a plurality of electoral votes (Andrew Jackson) did not become President, a source of great bitterness for Jackson and his supporters, who proclaimed the election of Adams a corrupt bargain.
- Since no candidate received a majority of the electoral votes, the presidential election was thrown into a contingent election in the S. House of Representatives. Following the provisions of the Twelfth Amendment, only the top three candidates in the electoral vote were admitted as candidates in the House: Andrew Jackson, John Quincy Adams, and William Harris Crawford. … Adams was elected President on February 9, 1825, on the first ballot,with 13 states, followed by Jackson with 7, and Crawford with 4.
- Adams’ victory shocked Jackson, who, as the winner of a plurality of both the popular and electoral votes, expected to be elected president.
- United States presidential election, 1876 (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia): It was one of the most contentious and controversial presidential elections in American history.
- The results of the election remain among the most disputed ever, although it isn’t disputed that Samuel J. Tilden of New York outpolled Ohio’s Rutherford B. Hayes in the popular vote. After a first count of votes, Tilden won 184 electoral votes to Hayes’s 165, with 20 votes unresolved. These 20 electoral votes were in dispute in four states. … The question of who should have been awarded these electoral votes is the source of the continued controversy concerning the results of this election.
- An informal deal was struck to resolve the dispute: the Compromise of 1877, which awarded all 20 electoral votes to Hayes. In return for the Democrats’ acquiescence to Hayes’s election, the Republicans agreed to withdraw federal troops from the South to end the Reconstruction Era of the United States. The Compromise effectively ceded power in the Southern states to the Democratic Redeemers, who went on to pursue their agenda of returning the South to a political economy resembling that of its pre-war condition, including the disenfranchisement of black voters.
- This was the first presidential election since 1852 in which the Democratic candidate won a majority of the popular vote. This is also the only election in which a candidate for president received more than 50 percent of the popular vote, but was not elected president by the Electoral College, and one of five elections (in addition to 1824, 1888, 2000 and 2016) in which the person who won the most popular votes did not win the election. To date, it remains the election that recorded the smallest electoral vote victory and the election that yielded the highest voter turnout of the eligible voting age population in American history, at 81.8%.
- Terms of compromise:
- The compromise essentially stated that Southern Democrats would acknowledge Hayes as president, but only on the understanding that Republicans would meet certain demands. The following elements are generally said to be the points of the compromise:[3]
- The removal of all[citation needed]S. military forces from the former Confederate states. At the time, U.S. troops remained in only Louisiana, South Carolina, and Florida, but the Compromise completed their withdrawal from the region.
- The appointment of at least one Southern Democrat to Hayes’ cabinet. (David M. Key of Tennessee was appointed as Postmaster General.)
- The construction of another transcontinental railroad using the Texas and Pacific in the South (this had been part of the “Scott Plan,” proposed by Thomas A. Scott of the Pennsylvania Railroad; he had initiated negotiations resulting in the final compromise).
- Legislation to help industrialize the South and restore its economy following Reconstruction and the Civil War.
- In exchange, Democrats would accept the Republican Hayes as president by not employing the filibuster during the joint session of Congress needed to confirm the election.[4][5]
- After the Compromise, a few Democrats complained loudly that Tilden had been cheated. There was talk of forming armed units that would march on Washington, but President Grant was ready for that. He beefed up military security, and no one marched on Washington.[6]
- Hayes was peacefully inaugurated. Points 1 and 2 of the compromise took effect. Hayes had already announced his support for the restoration of “home rule,” which would involve federal troop removal, before the election. It was not unusual, nor unexpected, for a president, especially one so narrowly elected, to select a cabinet member favored by the other party. Points 3 and 4 were never enacted; it is possible there was no firm agreement about them.
- Whether by informal deal or simply reassurances already in line with Hayes’s announced plans, talks with Southern Democrats satisfied the worries of many. This prevented a Congressional filibuster that had threatened to extend resolution of the election dispute beyond Inauguration Day 1877.[7]
- Electoral College (United States), From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- “Although no elector is required by federal law to honor a pledge, there have been very few occasions when an elector voted contrary to a pledge.[8][9] The Twelfth Amendment, in specifying how a president and vice president are elected, requires each elector to cast one vote for president and another vote for vice president.[10][11]”
- Additionally, in the Federalist No. 10, James Madison argued against “an interested and overbearing majority” and the “mischiefs of faction” in an electoral system. He defined a faction as “a number of citizens whether amounting to a majority or minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adverse to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.” What was then called republican government (i.e., federalism, as opposed to direct democracy), with its varied distribution of voter rights and powers, would countervail against factions. Madison further postulated in the Federalist No. 10 that the greater the population and expanse of the Republic, the more difficulty factions would face in organizing due to such issues as sectionalism.[25]
- Federalist No. 10, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- 10 addresses the question of how to guard against “factions“, or groups of citizens, with interests contrary to the rights of others or the interests of the whole community. Madison saw factions as inevitable due to the nature of man – that is, as long as men hold differing opinions, have differing amounts of wealth, and own differing amount of property, they will continue to form alliances with people who are most similar to them, and they will sometimes work against the public interest, and infringe upon the rights of others. Thus, he questions how to guard against those dangers.[citation needed]
- Federalist No. 10 continues a theme begun in Federalist No. 9; it is titled, “The Same Subject Continued: The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection”. The whole series is cited by scholars and jurists as an authoritative interpretation and explication of the meaning of the Constitution. Jurists have frequently read No. 10 to mean that the Founding Fathers did not intend the United States government to be partisan[citation needed] and others have argued that given Madison’s clear understanding that partisanship is inevitable, he suggests that a representative republic form of government is more effective against factions than a direct democracy.[citation needed] Thus, Madison saw the Constitution as forming a “happy combination” of a republic and a democracy and with “the great and aggregate interests being referred to the national, the local and particular to the State legislatures” the power would not be centralized in a way that would make it “more difficult for unworthy candidates to practice the vicious arts by which elections are too often carried.”
- The Anti-Federalists vigorously contested the notion that a republic of diverse interests could survive. The author Cato (another pseudonym, most likely that of George Clinton)[26] summarized the Anti-Federalist position in the article Cato no. 3:
- COUNTER ARGUMENTS TO FEDERALIST #10
- … the Anti-Federalists appealed to both historical and theoretic evidence. On the theoretical side, they leaned heavily on the work of Charles de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu. The Anti-Federalists Brutus and Cato both quoted Montesquieu on the issue of the ideal size of a republic, citing his statement in The Spirit of the Laws that:
- It is natural to a republic to have only a small territory, otherwise it cannot long subsist. In a large republic there are men of large fortunes, and consequently of less moderation; there are trusts too great to be placed in any single subject; he has interest of his own; he soon begins to think that he may be happy, great and glorious, by oppressing his fellow citizens; and that he may raise himself to grandeur on the ruins of his country. In a large republic, the public good is sacrificed to a thousand views; it is subordinate to exceptions, and depends on accidents. In a small one, the interest of the public is easier perceived, better understood, and more within the reach of every citizen; abuses are of less extent, and of course are less protected.[32]
- Greece and Rome were looked to as model republics throughout this debate,[33] and authors on both sides took Roman pseudonyms. Brutus points out that the Greek and Roman states were small, whereas the U.S. is vast. He also points out that the expansion of these republics resulted in a transition from free government to tyranny.[34]
- Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate.
- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.
- The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.[Note 1]
- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.[1]
LINKS:
· PETITION: Electoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
· PETITION: We require special procedures when the electoral college and popular vote do not match.
- The Troubling Reason the Electoral College Exists, by Akhil Reed Amar, Nov. 8, 2016 Updated: Nov. 10, 2016 2:19 PM ET
- Electoral College (United States), From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- Federalist No. 10, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- Cato no. 3: COUNTER ARGUMENTS TO FEDERALIST #10Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- “How to effectively talk to your member of congress”, by Emily Ellsworth
- No, Electors in States Trump Won Should Not Vote for Clinton: The electoral college is a terrible device. But it is the rule each candidate ran on, by Garrett Epps (TheAtlantic.com) Nov 11, 2016
- Mitt Romney says Donald Trump will change America with ‘trickle-down racism’, By Theodore Schleifer, (CNN) Updated 4:28 PM ET, Sat June 11, 2016
- After the Election: ‘What a Pathetic Thing Is Decadence’, James Fallows (theatlantic.com) Nov 2016. Trump Nation: An ongoing reader discussion led by James Fallows regarding Donald Trump’s rise through the primaries and his potential role as president. (For a related series, see “Trump Time Capsule.”) To sound off in a substantive way, especially if you disagree with us, please send a note: hello@theatlantic.com.
- Here’s What Donald Trump Says Will Happen If He Loses on Tuesday, By Tessa Berenson @tcberenson (TIME.com) 12:03 PM ET Updated: 2:06PM ET Updated: Nov. 7, 2016 2:06 PM
- Extreme weather:
- Not all climate change is global warming, but global warming is driving all climate change.
- Progressives settled on the term “climate change” after the Right began using the term and confusing the issue with cold ‘weather’ as a contradiction to “Global Warming.”
- ‘Extreme Weather’ Film Connects Nature’s Fury to Climate Change, Brian Clark Howard
- Yawn: China’s Space Program Is Making Advances Look Routine: Since 2003, manned space flights have become almost routine in China, [Blogs.WSJ.com] Oct 17, 2016 7:38 pm HKT
- What will it take for the US to take China’s competition in space seriously?
- Will it be Taikonauts say, “Ni hao,” from the moon?
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- The 4th Industrial Revolution: The robots are coming. And they’re coming for your job.
- The First industrial revolution This process began in Britain in the 18th century and from there spread to other parts of the world. Although used earlier by French writers, the term Industrial Revolution was first popularized by the English economic historian Arnold Toynbee (1852–83) to describe Britain’s economic development from 1760 to 1840.Jan 20, 2016. Industrial Revolution | Britannica.com
- , economist.com/node/21553017: THE first industrial revolution began in Britain in the late 18th century, with the mechanisation of the textile industry. Tasks previously done laboriously by hand in hundreds of weavers’ cottages were brought together in a single cotton mill, and the factory was born. The second industrial revolution came in the early 20th century, when Henry Ford mastered the moving assembly line and ushered in the age of mass production. The first two industrial revolutions made people richer and more urban. Now a third revolution is under way. Manufacturing is going digital. As this week’s special report argues, this could change not just business, but much else besides.
- The first two industrial revolutions made people richer and more urban. Now a third revolution is under way. Manufacturing is going digital.Apr 21, 2012
- The First industrial revolution This process began in Britain in the 18th century and from there spread to other parts of the world. Although used earlier by French writers, the term Industrial Revolution was first popularized by the English economic historian Arnold Toynbee (1852–83) to describe Britain’s economic development from 1760 to 1840.Jan 20, 2016. Industrial Revolution | Britannica.com
- Think twice, maybe three times, before cosigning loans, and even then, you probably shouldn’t do it.
- In New Jersey Student Loan Program, Even Death May Not Bring a Reprieve, By ANNIE WALDMAN, (NY Times) JULY 3, 2016
- Payday Lenders
- Usury: noun the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest. Archaic interest at unreasonably high rates.
- Interest Caps
- ‘Choice’
- Are the many high-interest payday lenders a direct result of bank deregulation and the attendant fees and penalties that came with them?
- How this Missouri man wound up paying $50K in interest after taking $2,500 in payday loans: ws/20onFHy pic.twitter.com/8krVicitx1
- Differences between Liberals, Conservatives, Libertarians and neo-Conservatives
- Left–right politics, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- History of the terms: The terms “left” and “right” appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president’s right and supporters of the revolution to his left. One deputy, the Baron de Gauville, explained, “We began to recognize each other: those who were loyal to religion and the king took up positions to the right of the chair so as to avoid the shouts, oaths, and indecencies that enjoyed free rein in the opposing camp.” However the Right opposed the seating arrangement because they believed that deputies should support private or general interests but should not form factions or political parties. The contemporary press occasionally used the terms “left” and “right” to refer to the opposing sides.[9]
- Greens and Libertarians: The yin and yang of our political future, by Dan Sullivan (originally appearing in Green Revolution, Volume 49, No. 2, summer, 1992)
- … Libertarians tend to be logical and analytical. They are confident that their principles will create an ideal society, even though they have no consensus of what that society would be like. Greens, on the other hand, tend to be more intuitive and imaginative. They have clear images of what kind of society they want, but are fuzzy about the principles on which that society would be based.
- Ironically, Libertarians tend to be more utopian and uncompromising about their political positions, and are often unable to focus on politically winnable proposals to make the system more consistent with their overall goals. Greens on the other hand, embrace immediate proposals with ease, but are often unable to show how those proposals fit in to their ultimate goals.
- The most difficult differences to reconcile, however, stem from baggage that members of each party have brought with them from their former political affiliations. Most Libertarians are overly hostile to government and cling to the fiction that virtually all private fortunes are legitimately earned. Most Greens are overly hostile to free enterprise and cling to the fiction that harmony and balance can be achieved through increased government intervention.
- Amongst published researchers, there is agreement that the Left includes anarchists, communists, socialists, progressives, anti-capitalists, anti-imperialists, anti-racists, democratic socialists, greens, left-libertarians, social democrats, and social liberals.[5][6][7]
- Researchers have also said that the Right includes capitalists, conservatives, monarchists, nationalists, neoconservatives, neoliberals, reactionaries, imperialists, right-libertarians, social authoritarians, religious fundamentalists, and traditionalists.[8]
- Left–right politics, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
o Government Debt in the United States – Debt Clock: (www.usgovernmentdebt.us/): Total Federal Government Debt in 2016 is $19.9 trillion (2016-11-28). At the end of FY 2017 the total government debt in the United States, including federal, state, and local, is expected to be $23.277 trillion. Get more information about Total Debt here.
- What Are Cats Trying to Tell Us? Science Will Explain, By Carrie Arnold [National Geographic] PUBLISHED March 28, 2016
- Nearly all New York State pet owners talk to their pets like they’re fellow humans, according to a recent poll. Many believe their dogs and cats can respond with barks or meows that communicate hunger, fear, or simply the need to pee. But do the animals tawk back in a Brooklyn accent? That’s the sort of thing Swedish cat lover and phonetics researcher Suzanne Schötz is working to find out. After executing this strategy on every government program except the military and corporate welfare, is it now the turn of the Supreme Court?
- The Science of Meow: Study to Look at How Cats Talk: A new project is underway to decode kitty communication—and figure out if cats really like all that baby talk.
- What Are Cats Trying to Tell Us? Science Will Explain
[National Geographic Society]:
- What Are Cats Trying to Tell Us? Science Will Explain
- The dos and don’ts of open carry, By Robert Arnold – Investigative Reporter (click2houston.com) Posted: 9:37 AM, December 31, 2015 Updated: 10:04 AM, December 31, 2015
- TERMINOLOGIES: Words Matter
- The term “Conservative” is so inaccurate as currently used by the Media, the Media and all of us really need to rethink their classifications and terminology.
- There are Liberals/Progressives and there are Conservatives. Both of those are fine and serve a useful purpose in civil opposition to each other.
- Today’s “Conservatives” are conservative in name only
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